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Poll: Where Will Patrick Kane Sign?

September 4, 2023 at 12:15 pm CDT | by Josh Erickson 19 Comments

When Patrick Kane said he’d be undergoing a hip resurfacing procedure in June, it became clear he wouldn’t sign a new contract anywhere until deep into his recovery, closer to the start of the 2023-24 season. That’s exactly what happened – more than two months into free agency, the three-time Stanley Cup champion remains unsigned but, if you ask him, is ahead of schedule in his return to playing health.

Now, in the dog days of summer, rumors have been ramping up about where the longtime Blackhawks winger might end up. The Colorado Avalanche, Dallas Stars and New York Islanders were named as potential suitors by The Fourth Period’s David Pagnotta last month, while the Chicago Daily Herald’s John Dietz reported yesterday a desire to reunite with former teammate Alex DeBrincat may influence Kane to sign with the emerging Detroit Red Wings – if they come calling, that is. There’s been no reporting to suggest Red Wings GM Steve Yzerman has interest in acquiring Kane.

What remains a complete unknown is what Kane is willing to take in terms of payment on his next deal. He won’t receive anywhere close to his previous $10.5MM AAV, but how low is he willing to go on a one-year deal to join a potential contender? He’s also one year away from being eligible for a 35+ contract, meaning he cannot receive performance bonuses on a contract signed for this season.

The answer to that question could very well determine his options. If he wants something with more significant compensation, Colorado or Detroit will be his two options among the reported potential destinations. The Avs still have around $2MM in cap flexibility as captain Gabriel Landeskog is destined for LTIR, per CapFriendly, while the Red Wings have slightly over $5MM in space remaining. Dallas or New York wouldn’t be able to accommodate much above the league minimum $775K salary unless a corresponding trade is made.

The Buffalo Sabres, Kane’s hometown team, remains a wildcard option. There’s been nothing concrete connecting the two parties throughout the offseason, however – it remains just speculation.

Signing Kane would give Detroit a bonafide core of four top-six wingers with him, DeBrincat, David Perron, and Lucas Raymond, but is Kane still going to be able to handle first-line minutes on a playoff team without the star-studded help he had around him with the New York Rangers post-deadline last season? Given his pre-injury decline and recovery from such a severe procedure, it’s a fair worry to have.

All that said, we ask you, PHR readers: Where do you think Kane will end up when he signs for the 2023-24 season? Vote in our poll below:

Where will Patrick Kane sign?
Detroit Red Wings 30.30% (698 votes)
Other 26.13% (602 votes)
Buffalo Sabres 17.84% (411 votes)
Colorado Avalanche 17.01% (392 votes)
Dallas Stars 4.43% (102 votes)
New York Islanders 4.30% (99 votes)
Total Votes: 2,304

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2009 NHL Draft Take Two: Ninth Overall Pick

September 2, 2023 at 2:59 pm CDT | by Brian La Rose 4 Comments

Hindsight is an amazing thing, and allows us to look back and wonder “what could have been.”  Though perfection is attempted, scouting and draft selection is far from an exact science and sometimes, it doesn’t work out the way teams – or players – intended.  For every Patrick Kane, there is a Patrik Stefan.

We’re looking back at the 2009 NHL Entry Draft and asking how it would shake out knowing what we do now.  Will the first round remain the same, or will some late-round picks jump up to the top of the board?

The results of our redraft so far are as follows, with their original draft position in parentheses:

1st Overall:  Victor Hedman, New York Islanders (2)
2nd Overall: John Tavares, Tampa Bay Lightning (1)
3rd Overall: Ryan O’Reilly, Colorado Avalanche (33)
4th Overall: Matt Duchene, Atlanta Thrashers (3)
5th Overall: Chris Kreider, Los Angeles Kings (19)
6th Overall: Nazem Kadri, Phoenix Coyotes (7)
7th Overall:  Mattias Ekholm, Toronto Maple Leafs (102)
8th Overall: Evander Kane, Dallas Stars (4)

With Dallas originally taking Scott Glennie at the eighth spot, this selection certainly represents a significant improvement in outcomes for the Stars with 31.5% of the votes from our readers going to the power forward.  That was twice as many votes as the next-highest player.

Kane was originally drafted fourth overall by Atlanta after a dominant showing with WHL Vancouver and they moved him right to the NHL.  While it took him some to adjust to playing at the top level, his third season was a breakout campaign as he picked up 57 points in the franchise’s first season with Winnipeg.  To date, that is his career-best in a single season.

However, Kane wasn’t without controversy during his time with the Jets and he later admitted that he requested a trade basically every offseason.  Eventually, that request was granted – while he was on the injured list, no less – as Winnipeg moved him to Buffalo in February of 2015 in what some would call a blockbuster move at the time.  Zach Bogosian also went to the Sabres as part of the swap with Tyler Myers, Joel Armia, Drew Stafford, Brendan Lemieux, and a first-round pick all coming to Winnipeg.

Things weren’t much better for Kane in Buffalo.  The injury struggles continued while he produced at close to the same level as he did with the Jets.  With his contract coming to an end in 2018 and the Sabres out of contention, he was moved to San Jose at the trade deadline.

This time, the change of scenery helped as Kane played well enough down the stretch and in the playoffs to earn a seven-year, $49MM contract.  In his first two full seasons with the team, he had 56 goals and it looked like he had found a long-term home.

However, he didn’t make it past the halfway point of the deal.  The relationship between Kane and the Sharks soured amid off-ice allegations that were investigated by the league and found to be unsubstantiated.  Then, Kane submitted a fake vaccination card in 2020, resulting in a 21-game suspension and an immediate assignment to the AHL upon its conclusion.  Two months later, they terminated the contract, citing a breach of contract and failure to adhere to COVID protocols.  Kane and the NHLPA filed a grievance which was settled last September.

In the meantime, Kane caught on with Edmonton in 2022 and was quite productive down the stretch with 39 points in 43 games, earning himself a new four-year deal that still has three years remaining.  Injuries limited him to just 41 regular season games in 2022-23 but he was still an important part of their top six and projects to be in that role for the foreseeable future.

Now, we move on to the ninth selection, which was held by the Ottawa Senators.  They initially took Jared Cowen out of WHL Spokane but he was only able to hold on to a depth role for a handful of years before calling it a career in 2016.  Clearly, he isn’t the best option available in our redraft.  Who is?  Make your selection for the Sens below.

2009 Redraft: Ninth Overall
Brayden Schenn 23.43% (134 votes)
Oliver Ekman-Larsson 20.45% (117 votes)
Dmitry Orlov 12.94% (74 votes)
Anders Lee 8.74% (50 votes)
Ryan Ellis 7.34% (42 votes)
Tyson Barrie 4.37% (25 votes)
Reilly Smith 3.67% (21 votes)
Tomas Tatar 2.97% (17 votes)
Darcy Kuemper 2.62% (15 votes)
Mike Hoffman 2.10% (12 votes)
Robin Lehner 1.57% (9 votes)
Jakob Silfverberg 1.40% (8 votes)
Marcus Foligno 1.22% (7 votes)
Marcus Johansson 1.22% (7 votes)
Kyle Palmieri 1.22% (7 votes)
Nick Leddy 0.87% (5 votes)
Brian Dumoulin 0.70% (4 votes)
David Savard 0.70% (4 votes)
Sami Vatanen 0.70% (4 votes)
Mikko Koskinen 0.52% (3 votes)
Calvin de Haan 0.35% (2 votes)
Erik Haula 0.35% (2 votes)
Dmitry Kulikov 0.35% (2 votes)
Craig Smith 0.17% (1 votes)
Casey Cizikas 0.00% (0 votes)
Brayden McNabb 0.00% (0 votes)
Total Votes: 572

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Ottawa Senators| Polls| Pro Hockey Rumors Originals Jared Cowen

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Poll: Which Team Had The Worst Offseason?

August 30, 2023 at 7:04 pm CDT | by Brennan McClain 20 Comments

During this time of year, some organizations have plenty of excitement surrounding their clubs, as fans are eager to see new players wear the jerseys of their favorite teams headed into training camp. Whether picking up exciting players through the draft, free agency, or trades, there are plenty of teams that significantly improved their rosters heading into next season. However, there are some teams that have been unable to improve or have even seen the talent on their roster take a substantial decrease this summer.

One of the most important teams that factors into this conversation, is the defending President Trophy champions, Boston Bruins. This summer, the Bruins have had to deal with the untimely retirements of franchise legends Patrice Bergeron and David Krejci, while also watching Dmitry Orlov, Tyler Bertuzzi, Nick Foligno, Taylor Hall, as well as several others join separate organizations for the 2023-24 season. Seeing their name pop up in plenty of trade conversations lately, their cap situation has halted Boston from replacing any of these players on their team. The team still features top-end talent such as David Pastrnak and Brad Marchand, but in arguably the strongest division in the NHL, their competitive window may take a brief hiatus.

Unlike the Bruins, one team who had been projected to be competitive last season, but ultimately failed short of the playoffs at season’s end, was the Calgary Flames. The organization is only a season away from seeing quite a few players hit unrestricted free agency, but with an open wild-card situation in the Western Conference, the team did not do much to improve their chances next year. The organization may be banking on a serious change in direction from new head coach, Ryan Huska, but after trading away Tyler Toffoli to the New Jersey Devils early in the summer, the team only brought in Yegor Sharangovich, Dryden Hunt, and Jordan Oesterle. Time will tell if Huska truly has the ability to move the needle for the Flames behind the bench, but the acquired players this summer do not generate much confidence in that happening.

Lastly, for another straight summer, the New York Islanders did very little to address their lack of goal-scoring. The team did hand long-term deals to both Pierre Engvall and Scott Mayfield but failed to bring in any players such as Jason Zucker or Vladimir Tarasenko, who could have provided an extra boost to their offense. They may benefit from a full season from center Bo Horvat, but even after deploying him for over 35% of the season last year, still finished 22nd in the league in Goals For. The team is limited by the way of salary cap space and does typically put much more emphasis on keeping the puck out of their net, but the lack of additional goal-scoring is severely limiting this team in their quest for success.

There are other teams that may be in contention for the worst offseason, and now it’s time for a vote.

Which Team Had The Worst Offseason?
Boston Bruins 54.63% (790 votes)
Calgary Flames 18.12% (262 votes)
New York Islanders 15.63% (226 votes)
Anaheim Ducks 5.81% (84 votes)
Other (Comment Below) 5.81% (84 votes)
Total Votes: 1,446

Polls| Pro Hockey Rumors Originals

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2009 NHL Draft Take Two: Eighth Overall Pick

August 29, 2023 at 10:43 am CDT | by Josh Erickson 8 Comments

Hindsight is an amazing thing, and allows us to look back and wonder “what could have been.”  Though perfection is attempted, scouting and draft selection is far from an exact science and sometimes, it doesn’t work out the way teams – or players – intended.  For every Patrick Kane, there is a Patrik Stefan.

We’re looking back at the 2009 NHL Entry Draft and asking how it would shake out knowing what we do now.  Will the first round remain the same, or will some late-round picks jump up to the top of the board?

The results of our redraft so far are as follows, with their original draft position in parentheses:

1st Overall: Victor Hedman, New York Islanders (2)
2nd Overall: John Tavares, Tampa Bay Lightning (1)
3rd Overall: Ryan O’Reilly, Colorado Avalanche (33)
4th Overall: Matt Duchene, Atlanta Thrashers (3)
5th Overall: Chris Kreider, Los Angeles Kings (19)
6th Overall: Nazem Kadri, Phoenix Coyotes (7)
7th Overall: Mattias Ekholm, Toronto Maple Leafs (102)

With Toronto’s initial selection being plucked by the Coyotes one pick prior, PHR voters opted to give the Leafs a defenseman, doling out the biggest riser so far in Ekholm. It was a rather sizable win for the Swedish defender, earning 31% of the PHR reader vote, coming in ahead of second-place Evander Kane, who’s now fallen at least four spots from his original fourth-overall billing. He received 19% of the vote.

Like most defenders, especially those drafted in the later rounds, it took Ekholm a few years to develop into a full-time NHLer. After playing single-digit game totals the previous two seasons, Ekholm played 62 contests for Nashville in 2013-14 as a 23-year-old, losing his rookie status. It was another couple of years until Ekholm transformed into the top-four fixture we know today, however. That came in the 2015-16 campaign when he eclipsed the 20-minutes-per-game average for the first time and notched a career-high eight goals, 27 assists and 35 points while playing in all 82 games.

Since then, Ekholm has been a model of consistency, logging heavy minutes while posting consistent point totals and possession metrics. His career-best season came in the 2018-19 campaign, when his 44 points, +27 rating and 23:22 average ice time per game earned him some Norris Trophy consideration, finishing tenth in voting that year. The Predators certainly got their value out of Ekholm, finally moving on from him earlier this year after 12 years and 719 games. He’s now part of perhaps the most skilled core in the league with the Edmonton Oilers, projecting to play a crucial role in helping develop young Evan Bouchard as his defense partner.

Now, we move to the Dallas Stars at eighth overall – a pick on which they’d certainly love a mulligan. They had the only complete whiff of the top ten, selecting speedy winger Scott Glennie from the WHL’s Brandon Wheat Kings. It looked like a fine pick at the time – he’d just rattled off 70 points in 55 games during his draft year. His development stunted once he turned pro in 2011, however, and he would play just one NHL game for the Stars in the 2011-12 season.

There are a handful of solid options for the Stars to pick from here. Kane is still on the board, as mentioned earlier, as are fifth-overall pick Brayden Schenn and sixth-overall pick Oliver Ekman-Larsson. PHR readers, tell us: Who would you take from the remaining crop at eighth overall? Vote in our poll below:

2009 Redraft: Eighth Overall
Evander Kane 31.62% (209 votes)
Brayden Schenn 15.73% (104 votes)
Oliver Ekman-Larsson 15.13% (100 votes)
Dmitry Orlov 8.32% (55 votes)
Anders Lee 7.72% (51 votes)
Ryan Ellis 5.75% (38 votes)
Tyson Barrie 2.57% (17 votes)
Reilly Smith 2.57% (17 votes)
Darcy Kuemper 2.27% (15 votes)
Tomas Tatar 1.21% (8 votes)
Marcus Johansson 1.06% (7 votes)
Nick Leddy 0.76% (5 votes)
Robin Lehner 0.76% (5 votes)
Jakob Silfverberg 0.76% (5 votes)
Brian Dumoulin 0.61% (4 votes)
Marcus Foligno 0.61% (4 votes)
Erik Haula 0.61% (4 votes)
Mike Hoffman 0.45% (3 votes)
Kyle Palmieri 0.45% (3 votes)
Mikko Koskinen 0.30% (2 votes)
David Savard 0.30% (2 votes)
Dmitry Kulikov 0.15% (1 votes)
Craig Smith 0.15% (1 votes)
Sami Vatanen 0.15% (1 votes)
Calvin de Haan 0.00% (0 votes)
Brayden McNabb 0.00% (0 votes)
Total Votes: 661

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Dallas Stars| Polls| Pro Hockey Rumors Originals Scott Glennie

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2009 NHL Draft Take Two: Seventh Overall Pick

August 26, 2023 at 4:00 pm CDT | by Brian La Rose Leave a Comment

Hindsight is an amazing thing, and allows us to look back and wonder “what could have been.”  Though perfection is attempted, scouting and draft selection is far from an exact science and sometimes, it doesn’t work out the way teams – or players – intended.  For every Patrick Kane, there is a Patrik Stefan.

We’re looking back at the 2009 NHL Entry Draft and asking how it would shake out knowing what we do now.  Will the first round remain the same, or will some late-round picks jump up to the top of the board?

The results of our redraft so far are as follows, with their original draft position in parentheses:

1st Overall: Victor Hedman, New York Islanders (2)
2nd Overall: John Tavares, Tampa Bay Lightning (1)
3rd Overall: Ryan O’Reilly, Colorado Avalanche (33)
4th Overall: Matt Duchene, Atlanta Thrashers (3)
5th Overall: Chris Kreider, Los Angeles Kings (19)
6th Overall: Nazem Kadri, Phoenix Coyotes (7)

Rather than have history repeat itself by selecting Oliver Ekman-Larsson with the sixth pick, PHR readers instead opted to give the Coyotes a center with nearly 30% of the votes cast coming in for Kadri.

It took some time for Kadri to find his footing in the NHL but a breakout performance in the lockout-shortened 2012-23 campaign saw him secure a full-time role.  That year, he posted a 0.93 points per game average and it looked like Toronto had found a true impact center, a vacancy they had dealt with for several seasons by that time with the likes of Mikhail Grabovski, Tyler Bozak, and Matt Stajan playing big minutes in the previous seasons.

However, it took a while for Kadri to really take off as he wasn’t able to produce like a true top-line middleman with consistency.  In fact, it wasn’t until Auston Matthews arrived in 2016-17 that Kadri was able to reach the 30-goal mark, a milestone he then reached in back-to-back years.  Unfortunately for Toronto, discipline issues became too much of a concern and in the 2019 offseason, he was traded to Colorado with Tyson Barrie and Alexander Kerfoot as part of the package coming the other way.  Barrie lasted one season in Toronto before signing with Edmonton while Kerfoot held a middle-six role for each of the last four years and signed with Arizona last month.

Meanwhile, with the Avs, Kadri started slow, recording just 30 goals in his first two seasons combined, spanning 107 games.  But in 2021-22, he had a career year, exploding for 87 points; his previous career-high was only 61.  He then followed that up with an impressive playoff performance, notching 15 points in 16 games while helping lead Colorado to the Stanley Cup.

That made Kadri one of the more sought-after players last summer and while it took a while for Calgary to create enough cap room to sign him, a seven-year, $49MM deal eventually got done.  Year one didn’t go so well (as was the case for many Flames) as his production dipped to 56 points.  That’s still the third-best single-season mark of his career but they were undoubtedly hoping for a bit more from him as Calgary ultimately missed the playoffs.  With six years left on that contract, he should be a fixture in their lineup for a while.

While Ekman-Larsson was a franchise fixture in the desert for more than a decade, they spent a lot of that time also searching for a center and it certainly is interesting to wonder what might have been had Kadri been the pick for them.

In the meantime, we move on to Toronto with the seventh selection.  Obviously, their original pick (Kadri) is off the board so they’ll be getting someone new here.  Who should they take?  Make your selection using the ballot below.

2009 Redraft: Seventh Overall
Mattias Ekholm 30.78% (229 votes)
Evander Kane 19.22% (143 votes)
Brayden Schenn 10.35% (77 votes)
Oliver Ekman-Larsson 9.95% (74 votes)
Dmitry Orlov 7.66% (57 votes)
Anders Lee 5.24% (39 votes)
Ryan Ellis 3.76% (28 votes)
Tyson Barrie 1.88% (14 votes)
Reilly Smith 1.88% (14 votes)
Darcy Kuemper 1.48% (11 votes)
Kyle Palmieri 1.48% (11 votes)
Tomas Tatar 1.21% (9 votes)
Robin Lehner 0.67% (5 votes)
Marcus Foligno 0.54% (4 votes)
Mike Hoffman 0.54% (4 votes)
Dmitry Kulikov 0.40% (3 votes)
Nick Leddy 0.40% (3 votes)
Jakob Silfverberg 0.40% (3 votes)
Craig Smith 0.40% (3 votes)
Sami Vatanen 0.40% (3 votes)
Calvin de Haan 0.27% (2 votes)
Brian Dumoulin 0.27% (2 votes)
Erik Haula 0.27% (2 votes)
David Savard 0.27% (2 votes)
Marcus Johansson 0.13% (1 votes)
Brayden McNabb 0.13% (1 votes)
Total Votes: 744

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Polls| Pro Hockey Rumors Originals NHL Entry Draft

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2009 NHL Draft Take Two: Sixth Overall Pick

August 21, 2023 at 1:47 pm CDT | by Josh Erickson 2 Comments

Hindsight is an amazing thing, and allows us to look back and wonder “what could have been.”  Though perfection is attempted, scouting and draft selection is far from an exact science and sometimes, it doesn’t work out the way teams – or players – intended.  For every Patrick Kane, there is a Patrik Stefan.

We’re looking back at the 2009 NHL Entry Draft and asking how it would shake out knowing what we do now.  Will the first round remain the same, or will some late-round picks jump up to the top of the board?

The results of our redraft so far are as follows, with their original draft position in parentheses:

1st Overall: Victor Hedman, New York Islanders (2)
2nd Overall: John Tavares, Tampa Bay Lightning (1)
3rd Overall: Ryan O’Reilly, Colorado Avalanche (33)
4th Overall: Matt Duchene, Atlanta Thrashers (3)
5th Overall: Chris Kreider, Los Angeles Kings (19)

At fifth overall, PHR voters elected to take one of the draft’s better goal-scoring specialists in Kreider, who received 25% of the total votes. Selected straight out of high school, Kreider was drafted as a center but would end up on the wing for the New York Rangers, who took him in the mid-first round. It took him a few years to make the NHL, but he quickly became a dependable middle-six winger once he did, posting solid two-way numbers and routinely scoring over 20 goals. The last two seasons have done wonders for Kreider’s legacy, though, posting 88 markers over 160 games.

Coming up to the podium at sixth overall is the Phoenix Coyotes. The era of Wayne Gretzky behind the bench is now over after four underwhelming seasons, and the franchise is still looking to return to postseason play for just the third time since the year 2000.

They selected Swedish defenseman Oliver Ekman-Larsson, who had spent the entire 2008-09 campaign playing pro hockey with Leksands IF in the Swedish second-tier HockeyAllsvenskan. He posted a massive two-way season there, recording 17 points in 39 games and a +44 rating. Few argued with the pick at the time, and given his peak with the Coyotes, it’s hard to argue they truly made the wrong selection.

He played one more season in Sweden before coming over to the Coyotes in 2010, splitting his rookie year between the NHL and AHL but getting decent NHL action with 48 games, albeit in a bottom-pairing role. He broke into a top-four role during his sophomore season and never looked back, routinely earning Norris Trophy votes and was eventually named the team’s captain in 2018 after the retirement of Shane Doan.

His all-around game began to decline significantly beginning with the 2019-20 season, though, and in the summer of 2021, the Coyotes were able to offload his contract on the Vancouver Canucks in a deal that’s turned out quite well for Arizona, in retrospect. That doesn’t change the fact he provided the Coyotes with solid top-pairing performance for the better part of a decade, however, finishing his stint in the desert with 388 points and averaging 23:26 per game across 769 games.

He didn’t last particularly long in Vancouver, either, and the Canucks executed the largest non-compliance buyout in NHL history this summer to get out of the remaining four years of his massive eight-year, $66MM extension signed with the Coyotes that kicked in just as his decline began in 2019. He’ll suit up for the Florida Panthers next season, looking to prove he can turn things around on a one-year deal.

Ekman-Larsson trails only Hedman and Nick Leddy in total games played for a defenseman from the 2009 class with 902, and he’s third in career points behind Hedman and Tyson Barrie with 439. Despite his solid tenure as a member of the Coyotes, though, should the team have gone in a different direction? Let us know who you think the Coyotes should have selected below:

2009 Redraft: Sixth Overall
Nazem Kadri 28.53% (216 votes)
Mattias Ekholm 20.74% (157 votes)
Evander Kane 10.04% (76 votes)
Oliver Ekman-Larsson 9.51% (72 votes)
Brayden Schenn 8.06% (61 votes)
Dmitry Orlov 5.15% (39 votes)
Anders Lee 5.02% (38 votes)
Ryan Ellis 3.70% (28 votes)
Tyson Barrie 1.45% (11 votes)
Reilly Smith 1.45% (11 votes)
Nick Leddy 0.79% (6 votes)
Tomas Tatar 0.79% (6 votes)
Brian Dumoulin 0.66% (5 votes)
Kyle Palmieri 0.66% (5 votes)
Darcy Kuemper 0.53% (4 votes)
Erik Haula 0.40% (3 votes)
Mike Hoffman 0.40% (3 votes)
David Savard 0.40% (3 votes)
Calvin de Haan 0.26% (2 votes)
Marcus Johansson 0.26% (2 votes)
Dmitry Kulikov 0.26% (2 votes)
Jakob Silfverberg 0.26% (2 votes)
Sami Vatanen 0.26% (2 votes)
Robin Lehner 0.13% (1 votes)
Brayden McNabb 0.13% (1 votes)
Craig Smith 0.13% (1 votes)
Total Votes: 757

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Polls| Pro Hockey Rumors Originals| Utah Mammoth Oliver Ekman-Larsson

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2009 NHL Draft Take Two: Fifth Overall Pick

August 17, 2023 at 2:38 pm CDT | by Josh Erickson 2 Comments

Hindsight is an amazing thing, and allows us to look back and wonder “what could have been.”  Though perfection is attempted, scouting and draft selection is far from an exact science and sometimes, it doesn’t work out the way teams – or players – intended.  For every Patrick Kane, there is a Patrik Stefan.

We’re looking back at the 2009 NHL Entry Draft and asking how it would shake out knowing what we do now.  Will the first round remain the same, or will some late-round picks jump up to the top of the board?

The results of our redraft so far are as follows, with their original draft position in parentheses:

1st Overall: Victor Hedman, New York Islanders (2)
2nd Overall: John Tavares, Tampa Bay Lightning (1)
3rd Overall: Ryan O’Reilly, Colorado Avalanche (33)
4th Overall: Matt Duchene, Atlanta Thrashers (3)

Duchene doesn’t fall more than one spot past his original selection, winning the PHR reader poll by the slimmest margin thus far with only 29% of the total votes. Still, it’s hard to argue with the selection – Duchene remains a top-six threat and, despite his overall inconsistency, has scored upwards of 30 goals and 70 points on multiple occasions. In terms of career totals, he’s played in 123 more games than Evander Kane, Atlanta’s original pick at fourth overall, scored 14 more goals, and added a whopping 157 more assists.

The Los Angeles Kings are now on the clock at fifth overall in our 2009 redraft series. Things are looking up for the team after drafting names like Drew Doughty, Anze Kopitar, Dustin Brown and Wayne Simmonds in recent years, but they’ve now missed the playoffs for six straight years and are feeling the pressure to exit their rebuild in the post-Luc Robitaille era.

With their third-straight top-five pick, they selected center Brayden Schenn from the WHL’s Brandon Wheat Kings. The burgeoning two-way talent had solid name recognition, and the Kings had passed on his older brother, defenseman Luke Schenn, the year prior. Luke went fifth overall to the Toronto Maple Leafs after the Kings selected Thomas Hickey with the fourth overall pick.

While Schenn developed into an established top-six force in the NHL with a fruitful career, it wasn’t with the team that drafted him. He played just nine games with the Kings in the following two seasons after the draft before they traded him (along with Simmonds) to the Philadelphia Flyers in a package for center Mike Richards in 2011. With the Flyers, it didn’t take Schenn terribly long to become a strong middle-six center, eventually earning more chances higher in the lineup once moved to the wing. He tallied 20-plus goals three times in a Philadelphia jersey and had some solid possession metrics, although he never received any Selke Trophy consideration.

His career truly took off in 2017 after another trade, this time to the St. Louis Blues. He immediately posted the best season of his career, scoring a career-high 28 goals and 70 points in 2017-18 and playing nearly 20 minutes per game. He took a small step back in 2018-19, but you won’t hear any Blues fans complaining about that – he would go on to record 12 points in 26 playoff games as the Blues won the Stanley Cup for the first time in franchise history.

Set to turn 32 in a few days, Schenn is actually posting the most consistently high offensive totals of his career, combining for 123 points in 144 games over the past two seasons. His two-way game is starting to decline, but nonetheless, he’s given his two longtime NHL homes some solid hockey over the past decade-plus.

That being said, is Schenn the best player left on the board, or are there other options that would have better served the Kings? Make your voice heard in the poll below:

2009 Redraft: Fifth Overall
Chris Kreider 25.25% (227 votes)
Nazem Kadri 16.91% (152 votes)
Mattias Ekholm 15.46% (139 votes)
Evander Kane 11.12% (100 votes)
Brayden Schenn 8.68% (78 votes)
Oliver Ekman-Larsson 6.12% (55 votes)
Dmitry Orlov 3.11% (28 votes)
Ryan Ellis 2.56% (23 votes)
Anders Lee 2.34% (21 votes)
Reilly Smith 1.33% (12 votes)
Tomas Tatar 1.00% (9 votes)
Mike Hoffman 0.89% (8 votes)
Tyson Barrie 0.78% (7 votes)
Marcus Johansson 0.78% (7 votes)
Brian Dumoulin 0.56% (5 votes)
Jakob Silfverberg 0.56% (5 votes)
Darcy Kuemper 0.44% (4 votes)
Dmitry Kulikov 0.33% (3 votes)
Nick Leddy 0.33% (3 votes)
Kyle Palmieri 0.33% (3 votes)
Sami Vatanen 0.33% (3 votes)
Calvin de Haan 0.22% (2 votes)
Robin Lehner 0.22% (2 votes)
Brayden McNabb 0.22% (2 votes)
David Savard 0.11% (1 votes)
Craig Smith 0.00% (0 votes)
Total Votes: 899

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Los Angeles Kings| Polls| Pro Hockey Rumors Originals Brayden Schenn

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2009 NHL Draft Take Two: Fourth Overall Pick

August 15, 2023 at 9:40 am CDT | by Josh Erickson 4 Comments

Hindsight is an amazing thing, and allows us to look back and wonder “what could have been.”  Though perfection is attempted, scouting and draft selection is far from an exact science and sometimes, it doesn’t work out the way teams – or players – intended.  For every Patrick Kane, there is a Patrik Stefan.

We’re looking back at the 2009 NHL Entry Draft and asking how it would shake out knowing what we do now.  Will the first round remain the same, or will some late-round picks jump up to the top of the board?

The results of our redraft so far are as follows, with their original draft position in parentheses:

1st Overall: Victor Hedman, New York Islanders (2)
2nd Overall: John Tavares, Tampa Bay Lightning (1)
3rd Overall: Ryan O’Reilly, Colorado Avalanche (33)

The Conn Smythe winner with the 2019 Stanley Cup champion St. Louis Blues is off the board at third overall, becoming the first player taken outside of the first round to appear in our redraft. Notably, he does stay with the team that took him on Day 2 of the 2009 NHL Draft – the Colorado Avalanche, who used their second pick of the draft on O’Reilly after selecting Matt Duchene with the third overall pick. Both players have gone on to produce good offensive totals near the top of the class, although O’Reilly’s taken home more in terms of award hardware with a championship, a Conn Smythe and a Selke Trophy all under his belt. O’Reilly won with 48% of our polling, while Duchene finished second in third-overall voting with just 13% of the vote.

Next up on the draft board is the Atlanta Thrashers at fourth overall. This was their second straight top-five selection after using the third overall pick on defenseman Zach Bogosian in 2008.

This year, however, their big prospect add was forward Evander Kane out of the WHL’s Vancouver Giants. While it wasn’t a bad pick at all if you look at his point production throughout his career and his ability to consistently play a top-six role, Kane has had a multitude of off-ice incidents throughout his career, including having his contract terminated by the San Jose Sharks in 2022 for breaching COVID protocols.

Nonetheless, Kane was a solid player for the Thrashers (and Winnipeg Jets) for parts of six seasons until he was moved to the Buffalo Sabres in 2015. He was widely viewed as the best pick available at the time – after all, he had just posted 96 points in 61 games with the Giants while recording 89 penalty minutes to boot, and he’d recorded six points in six games for Canada at that year’s World Junior Championships.

He signed his entry-level contract with Atlanta just weeks after the draft and made the NHL full-time out of the gate in a middle-six role. As an 18-year-old, he recorded 14 goals and 12 assists for 26 points in 66 games, finishing tied in Calder Trophy voting with Hedman that year. By the time the 2012-13 partial lockout rolled around, Kane had a 30-goal season under his belt and was averaging over 20 minutes per game.

After later career stops with the Sabres, Sharks and now Edmonton Oilers, Kane has some well-documented defensive weaknesses but still brings an intriguing blend of shooting ability and physicality to the table. In 853 games, he’s scored 302 goals – third among the 2009 class behind Tavares and Duchene. His 573 career points are sixth in the class.

There’s an argument to be made that the Thrashers made the right pick, but Duchene could have also been a more intriguing option had he been available for the Thrashers to select at fourth overall. They don’t have very long to decide, though, as Atlanta is now on the clock – who should they select with the fourth-overall pick in the 2009 NHL Draft? Make your voice heard below:

2009 Redraft: Fourth Overall
Matt Duchene 29.65% (247 votes)
Chris Kreider 15.13% (126 votes)
Nazem Kadri 13.93% (116 votes)
Mattias Ekholm 12.00% (100 votes)
Evander Kane 8.16% (68 votes)
Oliver Ekman-Larsson 4.20% (35 votes)
Dmitry Orlov 3.60% (30 votes)
Brayden Schenn 3.12% (26 votes)
Ryan Ellis 3.00% (25 votes)
Anders Lee 1.56% (13 votes)
Reilly Smith 0.84% (7 votes)
Darcy Kuemper 0.60% (5 votes)
Robin Lehner 0.60% (5 votes)
Mike Hoffman 0.48% (4 votes)
Tomas Tatar 0.48% (4 votes)
Tyson Barrie 0.36% (3 votes)
Marcus Johansson 0.36% (3 votes)
Dmitry Kulikov 0.36% (3 votes)
Brayden McNabb 0.36% (3 votes)
Calvin de Haan 0.24% (2 votes)
Nick Leddy 0.24% (2 votes)
Sami Vatanen 0.24% (2 votes)
Kyle Palmieri 0.12% (1 votes)
David Savard 0.12% (1 votes)
Jakob Silfverberg 0.12% (1 votes)
Craig Smith 0.12% (1 votes)
Total Votes: 833

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Polls| Pro Hockey Rumors Originals| Winnipeg Jets Evander Kane

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2009 NHL Draft Take Two: Third Overall Pick

August 12, 2023 at 7:00 pm CDT | by Josh Erickson 2 Comments

Hindsight is an amazing thing, and allows us to look back and wonder “what could have been.”  Though perfection is attempted, scouting and draft selection is far from an exact science and sometimes, it doesn’t work out the way teams – or players – intended.  For every Patrick Kane, there is a Patrik Stefan.

We’re looking back at the 2009 NHL Entry Draft and asking how it would shake out knowing what we do now.  Will the first round remain the same, or will some late-round picks jump up to the top of the board?

The results of our redraft so far are as follows, with their original draft position in parentheses:

1st Overall: Victor Hedman, New York Islanders (2)
2nd Overall: John Tavares, Tampa Bay Lightning (1)

Unsurprisingly, the top two selections from the 2009 crop are gone by the time we reach third overall. However, Hedman did leapfrog Tavares for the number one spot in our PHR polling, although it was much closer than in years past, with Hedman capturing just 53% of the vote. Tavares’ win was much more squarely in landslide territory at second overall, however, earning over 75% of the vote with no real challengers other than Ryan O’Reilly, who received 8%. With Tavares producing at one of the more consistent clips over the past decade and a half, it’s no surprise he didn’t fall any further than he did.

Now on the clock at third overall is the Colorado Avalanche, who are coming off their worst season in 15 years and look to be entering a full-scale rebuild with longtime captain Joe Sakic announcing his retirement shortly after the 2009 Draft.

This was a rather consequential pick for the Avs franchise, who hadn’t picked in the top ten since the Quebec Nordiques took netminder Jocelyn Thibault at tenth overall in 1993 (followed by future Avalanche cult legend Adam Deadmarsh at #14). With it, they selected the second center (and second OHLer) of the top three in Matt Duchene, coming off a 79-point season with the Brampton Battalion. He immediately looked like an incredible selection – Duchene stepped into a top-six role as a 19-year-old the following season, scoring 55 points in 81 games and helping the Avalanche return to a playoff spot in 2010. After building on it with 27 goals and 67 points in his sophomore season, Duchene looked like a potential Sakic replacement if his development stayed linear.

It wasn’t to be, however. His third season was a write-off, partially thanks to knee and ankle injuries which cost him 24 games. He quickly rebounded, though, clicking near a point per game in 2012-13 and 2013-14, but his offense soon fell to second-line caliber numbers, and he was eventually dealt to the Ottawa Senators early in the 2017-18 campaign. It started a run of four teams in three seasons for Duchene, who also had a brief pit stop with the Columbus Blue Jackets before signing a massive seven-year, $56MM contract with the Nashville Predators in free agency after he rebounded for 70 points in 73 games in 2018-19.

His tenure in Nashville was equally inconsistent. While he did have a career season in 2021-22, scoring 43 goals and 86 points, both his offense and defense took a step back last season, and the Predators bought out the final three seasons of his contract. Set to suit up for the Dallas Stars next season, Duchene does remain a serviceable (at worst) top-six piece as he enters his early/mid-30s.

While he wasn’t the standout, everyday first-liner he looked to be during his early days with Colorado, Duchene has still had quite a fruitful career. He hasn’t won any major awards but sits second in goals and points among the 2009 class behind Tavares. However, Colorado’s second-round pick this year, O’Reilly, has finished in the first spot behind Hedman and Tavares in both of our polls so far.

Given the polling and career resume, one of Duchene or O’Reilly will likely remain with the Avs in our Take Two series. Was Duchene the better Av out of this class, or has O’Reilly’s career (or someone else) eclipsed him? Make your voice heard in the poll below:

2009 Redraft: Third Overall
Ryan O'Reilly 47.95% (644 votes)
Matt Duchene 12.81% (172 votes)
Chris Kreider 9.38% (126 votes)
Mattias Ekholm 6.63% (89 votes)
Nazem Kadri 6.25% (84 votes)
Evander Kane 3.50% (47 votes)
Oliver Ekman-Larsson 3.13% (42 votes)
Ryan Ellis 2.23% (30 votes)
Dmitry Orlov 1.56% (21 votes)
Anders Lee 1.34% (18 votes)
Brayden Schenn 1.12% (15 votes)
Tomas Tatar 0.74% (10 votes)
Reilly Smith 0.67% (9 votes)
Tyson Barrie 0.52% (7 votes)
Calvin de Haan 0.30% (4 votes)
Kyle Palmieri 0.30% (4 votes)
Craig Smith 0.30% (4 votes)
Darcy Kuemper 0.22% (3 votes)
Brayden McNabb 0.22% (3 votes)
Jakob Silfverberg 0.22% (3 votes)
Nick Leddy 0.15% (2 votes)
Robin Lehner 0.15% (2 votes)
David Savard 0.15% (2 votes)
Mike Hoffman 0.07% (1 votes)
Marcus Johansson 0.07% (1 votes)
Dmitry Kulikov 0.00% (0 votes)
Total Votes: 1,343

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Colorado Avalanche| Polls| Pro Hockey Rumors Originals Matt Duchene

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2009 NHL Draft Take Two: Second Overall Pick

August 10, 2023 at 7:00 pm CDT | by Josh Erickson 3 Comments

Hindsight is an amazing thing, and allows us to look back and wonder “what could have been.”  Though perfection is attempted, scouting and draft selection is far from an exact science and sometimes, it doesn’t work out the way teams – or players – intended.  For every Patrick Kane, there is a Patrik Stefan.

We’re looking back at the 2009 NHL Entry Draft and asking how it would shake out knowing what we do now.  Will the first round remain the same, or will some late-round picks jump up to the top of the board?

Earlier in the week, we kicked off the 2009 Take Two series by polling PHR readers on their pick for first overall with the benefit of hindsight. Defenseman Victor Hedman jumped up to claim the number-one spot by a comparatively slim margin, capturing 53% of the vote. In past years, the choice has been rather clear, with PHR voters settling on the draft class’ best player by scores of 70% or more.

Now with Hedman off the board to the New York Islanders at first overall, John Tavares remains on the board, with the Tampa Bay Lightning picking at number two. At the time of the draft, there was no question about whether Tavares would fall. He was one of the few players granted exceptional status into the OHL as a 15-year-old and, given he was only five days away from being eligible for the 2008 draft, Tavares already had four full seasons of junior hockey under his belt with two 100-plus point seasons to show for it.

While the circumstances of Tavares’ departure in free agency from the Islanders for the Toronto Maple Leafs in 2018 have soured the fanbase’s opinion on his time with the team, he’s inarguably one of the most talented players in team history and was the cornerstone behind their first-round playoff win in 2016, ending a decades-long streak without a series victory. The team’s captain for five seasons ended up with 621 points in 669 games as an Islander and ranks fifth in team history in Hockey Reference’s point shares system.

Among his 2009 peers, he currently sits as the all-time leader in goals, assists and points and is the only one with more than 1,000 career NHL games under his belt. Despite that, Tavares hasn’t taken home any major awards like Hedman – although Tavares was a Hart Trophy finalist in 2013 and 2015 at just 22 and 24 years old. If he had fallen to Tampa for whatever reason, may they have won more Stanley Cups with this core with Tavares in the fold along with Steven Stamkos?

That’s what we’re asking you today, PHR readers. Will Tavares fall yet another spot in your hindsight-influenced 2009 draft ranking, or will the Lightning select a second franchise center to complement Stamkos, who they selected first overall just one year prior? Vote in the poll below:

2009 Redraft: Second Overall
John Tavares 76.62% (1,150 votes)
Ryan O'Reilly 8.46% (127 votes)
Chris Kreider 2.47% (37 votes)
Matt Duchene 2.07% (31 votes)
Mattias Ekholm 1.80% (27 votes)
Evander Kane 0.93% (14 votes)
Nazem Kadri 0.87% (13 votes)
Dmitry Orlov 0.80% (12 votes)
Brayden Schenn 0.73% (11 votes)
Oliver Ekman-Larsson 0.67% (10 votes)
Ryan Ellis 0.60% (9 votes)
Anders Lee 0.47% (7 votes)
Tomas Tatar 0.47% (7 votes)
Calvin de Haan 0.40% (6 votes)
Jakob Silfverberg 0.40% (6 votes)
Reilly Smith 0.40% (6 votes)
David Savard 0.33% (5 votes)
Tyson Barrie 0.27% (4 votes)
Nick Leddy 0.20% (3 votes)
Robin Lehner 0.20% (3 votes)
Kyle Palmieri 0.20% (3 votes)
Craig Smith 0.20% (3 votes)
Mike Hoffman 0.13% (2 votes)
Marcus Johansson 0.13% (2 votes)
Darcy Kuemper 0.13% (2 votes)
Dmitry Kulikov 0.07% (1 votes)
Total Votes: 1,501

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