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PHR Mailbag: Wild, Sharks, Third Lines, Goaltending Moves, Draft

October 26, 2025 at 10:00 pm CDT | by Brian La Rose 1 Comment

Topics in this edition of the PHR Mailbag include San Jose’s rebuild, speculating about teams that could make a goalie move, and more.  If your question doesn’t appear here, check back in last weekend’s column.

Zakis: How does the Wild figure out 5-on-5 scoring?

A lot of it is just going to be patience.  They’ve been hovering around a shooting percentage of five at full strength this season.  That’s bound to improve on its own as even bad teams are closer to seven at the end of a year.

There are a couple of ways to improve scoring at five-on-five and neither of them are easy.  The first is upgrading their playmaking, especially down the middle.  GM Bill Guerin has been trying to do that for years without much success.  (He’s hardly the only one who has struggled in this regard either.)  That’s going to be tough to do in-season.

The other is play with more tempo and try to generate more odd-man rush chances.  The problem is that Minnesota isn’t particularly young and a lot of their veterans aren’t known as high-end skaters.  Beyond Kirill Kaprizov’s line, they’re built to play a little slower.  That might work in the playoffs when the checking and whistles are tighter but in the regular season, it’s bit trickier.  Ideally, prospects like Danila Yurov and Liam Ohgren playing their way into bigger roles would help but that, again, takes patience.  But in terms of short-term fixes, I don’t see a viable way for them to significantly change their fortunes on that front and that’s why they’re going to be viewed as more of a bubble team than a contender.

PyramidHeadcrab: It’s looking like Sharks fans are going to have to strap in for another rough season.

We know the Sharks have been building top-shelf assets (Celebrini, Askarov, Misa, Graf, et al), but how long do complete rebuilds like this typically last?

In watching their first few games, I am seeing a team that is completely disorganized, with players being consistently out of position – Celebrini making a tremendous play with no one in position to receive a pass, for instance. There’s the cliche of “veterans mentioning The Youth™” but experienced players like Klingberg, Kurashev, and Goodrow are consistently playing poorly.

At what point do you know if the plan is working, and when do the stars typically align for a team like this to turn the corner on being successful?

And as a brief addendum – the lack of a net-crashing power forward to kite attention from the opposing D is glaring; is there anyone in the Sharks system that could fill this role eventually? Are there any top prospects for the ’26 draft that could fit this bill?

There aren’t a lot of examples of the ‘burn it to the ground and build back slowly’ rebuild to compare to here.  These types of undertakings haven’t gained a lot of popularity until the last decade or so.  Sure, there have been rebuilds with an eye on them taking a few years but few have been to quite this extent.

The best option I can think of is the one that’s still ongoing in Utah.  I remember reading something a few years ago about how long he envisioned his rebuild being and it was something like eight or ten years for the full process to take place.  He mentioned last year in an interview with KSL Sports (video link) that competing for a playoff spot in the fifth season was a realistic target.

So, where are the Sharks in this?  While they’ve missed the postseason in six straight years, it was really only the 2023-24 season where they got serious about it.  Erik Karlsson went that offseason, Tomas Hertl at the deadline, and some youngsters (William Eklund and Fabian Zetterlund) got big minutes.  You could argue 2022-23 was the start when Timo Meier moved but that was done late in the year.  Basically, they’re around the halfway mark before that ‘playoffs in five years’ goal.  With the pieces they’re collecting, I think they’re on the right track and I could see them getting there at the back end of that timeframe.

As I’ve noted before, scouting is not my forte so I could be wrong on this but from what I have seen with some of their top prospects, I don’t really see someone who can be that type of player, at least consistently.  Looking at the top of this year’s class, Ethan Belchetz might fit the bill but as is always the case with power forward prospects, there’s a difference between being that type of player in junior versus being that type of player in the NHL.

At this point of the rebuild, the focus is asset acquisition and getting as many pieces in place as possible.  Once that first wave of prospects is established, then they could start to get a little pickier or use some later-round picks on more aggressive boom/bust selections to try to find a certain type of player that they lack in their system.  I’d say they’re getting closer to that part and it wouldn’t shock me to see them try to address that.

PyramidHeadcrab: I’m legitimately confused at how Barclay Goodrow hasn’t been bought out yet. The only way that makes sense is a) it’s a verbal promise to be like, “sorry for screwing you over”, or b) they REALLY want to keep those retention slots open.

But in that case, why not bury him in the A and just eat the contract? Like it’s a real head-scratcher for me.

I don’t think it’s the first option.  While San Jose is likely operating with some respect befitting a longer-term veteran, if they felt they had to get him off the roster, they’d probably do it.  There might be a bit of validity to Option B.  They only have one salary retention slot available to them.  That’s not just for this season but 2026-27 as well with Karlsson signed until then.  The other one doesn’t unlock until after the 2029-30 campaign.  Adding Goodrow – who is also signed through 2026-27 – to the mix means they’re out of retention options until July 2027.  That’s not ideal.  I’d be saving that one for the trade deadline, potentially for Alexander Wennberg to maximize the return for him.

When the Sharks orchestrated the waiver claim situation to ensure they got him around 15 months ago, they knew (or reasonably ought to have known) that his best on-ice days were behind him.  I don’t think they brought him in thinking that he’d give the bottom six a big boost (mind you, they were probably hoping he’d be at least a little better than this).  I suspect he was viewed as more of a character addition.  In essence, that cliched mentoring idea you mentioned in the initial question.

If they think they need a roster spot, he’s someone who would safely clear waivers if it came to that.  He’d still probably come back after the trade deadline when there isn’t a roster maximum though.  This could be something they look at in the summer though.  They wouldn’t save a ton of money on a buyout since a decent chunk of his salary is in a signing bonus but if he’s done all he can do for them, I could see them buying him out to give him a chance to try to catch on elsewhere, likely for the league minimum.  But for now, I expect he’ll stay up for the rest of the season.

frozenaquatic: Thanks again for putting these together! The last six Cup winners have had depth in common, running out four lines that grind down opponents. I know bottom sixes are deployed differently (and also are more easily shuffled–though the best bottom sixes have chemistry and identity), but they’re usually a combo of grit and timely tertiary scoring. In your view, who has the most effective 3rd line in the league to start 2025? What’s the worst 3rd line on a supposed contender? Would you say Taylor Hall’s 4th line is the best? Who has the weakest 4th line?

Speaking of how quickly lines can be shuffled, Hall now finds himself in the top six in Carolina so he’s technically out of the equation for now.  And best is in the eye of the beholder.  If you’re looking squarely at results, the answer could be one way.  If you’re looking at overall effectiveness (or maybe trying to quantify it using Expected Goals), it’s going to be a different answer.

Colorado’s third line is a bit of an odd mishmash of players but it seems to be working.  Ross Colton has been there for a while now while Jack Drury came in early last season.  They both have some defensive skills but their linemate, Victor Olofsson, is more of an offense-only player, making the trio a bit of an odd combination.  However, it has worked early on with a 64.5 Expected Goals Percentage, per MoneyPuck despite close to a 50/50 split in zone starts.  They’re not scoring much but they’re not getting scored on either.  That’s a quietly effective line.  On the flip side, Nashville’s third line of Michael Bunting, Erik Haula, and Jonathan Marchessault looks quite good on paper but is struggling considerably defensively with the lowest xGF% of any line with at least 45 minutes of time together so far.

Fourth lines are a lot harder to quantify as they often change from one game to the next between injuries and line shuffling.  As a result, there are very few who have played together enough to glean any sort of meaningful information from.  For context, if I use that 45 minutes played as a cutoff, it looks like there are only three lines that would even qualify.  That’s not enough to really be able to accurately answer that question this early in the season.

ljfranker: What are some goaltending changes you expect to see this season?

History suggests that we won’t see too many changes as goalies don’t move in-season anywhere near the extent that skaters do.  I doubt this year will be much of an exception.  But that’s not an exciting answer so I’ll give you a few things I could see happening, just that the odds of all of them happening are low.

Oilers: At some point, Connor Ingram works his way onto Edmonton’s roster, likely at the expense of Calvin Pickard.  I thought his acquisition from Utah was a great move, especially for the low, low price of absolutely nothing (future considerations) despite there being salary retention.  I think he can raise the floor of their goaltending and if all went well, push Stuart Skinner.  With the Oilers not having a lot of wiggle room to try to improve their roster, this is one thing I expect them to do.

Sabres: Their claiming of Colten Ellis came as a surprise given the depth that they have and that Devon Levi is still viewed as part of their long-term plans.  If they’re pleased with what Ellis is showing in practice, Alex Lyon could become expendable.  At $1.5MM per season through 2026-27, he’d be an affordable dart throw for a team to take, especially one that gets hit with a longer-term injury.

Bargain Hunters: While it’s early, the gamble Ottawa made going with Leevi Merilainen isn’t exactly confidence-inspiring and Mads Sogaard may have plateaued.  For a team with playoff aspirations, they can’t afford to stick that out if Merilainen keeps struggling while Linus Ullmark doesn’t typically carry a huge workload.  I think they’ll be looking around at options soon.  We’ve seen speculation of Calgary sniffing around the market and that they might not trust Devin Cooley to be a full-time NHL backup so they’ll probably keep doing that.  I also wonder about Florida.  If Daniil Tarasov winds up being more of a mediocre option, I could see them exploring what’s out there.  With the injuries they have, getting a more proven piece to stabilize the backup games could be crucial.

Breakaway: The 2026 draft is supposed deeper and has more high-end talent. Schaefer and Misa were considered the consensus top picks in 2025. If they were coming out this year, would they be the 2nd and 3rd picks or would they fall farther down? After those two, there was a gap in talent, where would the rest of the top five fall if they were coming out in 2026?

One of the challenges with an exercise like this is that what teams hold those draft picks ultimately does a lot to dictate who goes where.  What’s the player type they’re looking for?  It’s not always a case of Best Player Available (or teams have had some very different opinions on BPAs from the consensus top of the class).  But I’ll give it a shot.

Gavin McKenna goes first and there’s probably not much to explain there.  I do think Matthew Schaefer would go second and I’d say that without factoring in his start with the Islanders.  A young 18 for his draft class, he’s a high-ceiling all situations number one defender.  That will always go high.  Keaton Verhoeff could change that with a big year in college (especially as a righty) but failing that, Schaefer lands ahead of him.

For Michael Misa versus Ivar Stenberg, what’s the need?  If it’s a pure shooter (or a team really wants a center), it’s Misa.  If it’s a setup guy, it’s Stenberg.  I’d lean toward Misa myself so he’d be fourth.  I’d have Anton Frondell next at five, then Stenberg at six, assuming his development goes as planned this season.

Then we go back to centers with Caleb Desnoyers (fourth to Utah) and Ryan Roobroeck, draft-eligible this year.  Today, I’d give the nod to Desnoyers but with this season barely underway, that could easily change.

Brady Martin is the ultimate wild card.  Given his power forward style of play, it’s entirely plausible to me that a team could see this combined group and still pick him fifth.  I could also see him fall out of the top ten and it wouldn’t surprise me.  It all comes down to who has the picks and what their team needs are.  Chances are that he’d still sneak into the back of the top ten with that playoff-profile skillset.

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