Winnipeg Jets forward Pierre-Luc Dubois made headlines yesterday when his desire to test free agency in two year’s time was reported by Elliotte Friedman of Sportsnet. Today, Friedman elaborated on his report, taking a wider view on Dubois’ situation in general. Friedman specifically pointed to Jets GM Kevin Cheveldayoff’s approach to other players who had their eyes on playing elsewhere, such as Jacob Trouba, to reveal how Cheveldayoff could approach the Dubois situation. In the face of Dubois’ desire to test the market in two years, it seems that no trade is imminent. Per Friedman, the Jets hope that Dubois will “be a Jet for a long time,” and will likely attempt to do whatever possible to change Dubois’ mind and get his signature on a long-term deal.
Dubois is an extremely talented player, and it’s easy to see why the Jets would want to do anything they could to change Dubois’ mind and keep him in Winnipeg. The Jets surrendered both Patrik Laine and Jack Roslovic in order to secure Dubois’ services, and him leaving in free agency would be a major blow to the franchise. It’s a difficult situation for Winnipeg because ultimately Dubois does have the power to choose where he wants to play. If his heart is truly not in Winnipeg, the choice to hold on to Dubois and hope he changes his mind could be an incredibly costly one for the Jets. Cheveldayoff is an experienced GM who has gone through similar situations to this one before. How well he is able to handle this Dubois complication will be a major factor in determining how quickly the Jets can return to contention.
Now, for some other notes from across the league:
- The Vegas Golden Knights made a big move today, taking a top UFA winger off the market with a three-year extension for Reilly Smith. The Golden Knights’ AHL affiliate, the Henderson Silver Knights, also made a signing today, inking goaltender Jordan Papirny to an AHL contract for the 2022-23 season. (per The Athletic’s Jesse Granger) While this signing may seem a bit curious at first glance since Papirny has only two professional games played on his record, the rationale behind it becomes a bit more clear when you do some digging. Papirny shared the crease with current Vegas goalie Logan Thompson in his time with the Brandon Wheat Kings of the WHL, and his head coach was Kelly McCrimmon, the current Golden Knights’ GM. Papirny, 26, had his most success last season playing Canadian college hockey in the ACAC, where he had an 11-0-0 record and a .948 save percentage with the Northern Alberta Institute of Technology.
- Today, the Hockey Hall of Fame announced details of this year’s selection announcement, with the 2022 class’ reveal set to be broadcast on Monday on TSN and NHL Network. The currently eligible players give a potential 2022 class some real star potential, with names such as Roberto Luongo, Henrik Sedin, Daniel Sedin, and Rick Nash entering the field, and familiar names such as Daniel Alfredsson and Alexander Mogilny hoping that this year will be the year their names are enshrined in Toronto.
Another player escaping Winnipeg.
Riley Nash has as much chance of getting into the HOF as Rick Nash.
Alfreddson might get in, but it will be graded on a curve for being an icon to an otherwise barren franchise.
Mogilny is a tougher call, he has some nice career highlights, but I can’t make a great case for him, either.
Lu and the Twins are in.
Lu and the twins can wait. Would put mogilny in. Also Saku Koivu because his health cost him being at least a point a game player. And playing during much of the brutal years of the habs and doing well internationally.
Mogilny should be already If kevin lowe and mark reechi are. Luongo and ouellette are sure things . The sedins are probably getting in. I think do to his coaching Brind’amour may get fourth spot ahead of moligny. Think nash is a bubble guy. May get in just not first year. I would have him after alfreddson, vernon ,middleton,larmer fluery, Also think jennifer botterill should get in.
Mogilny should be in
-Triple Gold Club member
-6-time all star
-first Soviet NHL entry draft pick to defect to North America
-point per game player who scored over 1000 points – he’s basically top forty all time for points and goals per game.
-2 time second team all start
-first non-North American to lead the league in goals
-first Russian to captain an NHL team
-one of only 8 NHL players to score 70 or more goals in a season
Arguably one of the most exciting offensive wingers of the 90s. Historically he’s an incredibly important player – you can’t tell the history of the NHL in the 90s without including him. He was a winner at every level and he was a top six winger from the beginning to the end of his career.
He is a no doubt hall of famer for me.
Mogilny’s borderline. There are hundreds of non-HHOFers who were “top six” for their whole careers, he racked up his stats in the highest scoring era in league history, being the “first Russian” is meaningless — are you suggesting that Sergei Priakin be elected?? — a thousand points doesn’t hold all that much meaning any more (unless you’re suggesting that the likes of Weight, Propp, Bellows, Larmer and Kovalev should get in alongside Priakin), and he’s no more important to the history of the 1990s than many other players.
He’s also not “top forty” for anything. He stands 81st in career points and 55th in goals. 1993’s the only year he led the league in anything. He doesn’t have a superstar career: he had a Hall of Very Good career that was punctuated by two superb seasons, and without 1993 and 1996 we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
But he did get two 2nd Team All-Star nods, a Byng and a Cup ring. Those are things the voters look for in HHOF candidates. He won’t be elected this year, of course, but he may get a veterans’ committee nod twenty years from now.
Like I said “Mogilny is a tougher call, he has some nice career highlights” but…to me, Kovalev was a better player and I can’t make a case for Kovalev, either.
The 76 goal season is his best argument but he spent a lot of his career as an underachieving second line player, too.
Im suggesting that Mogilny’s offensive, international, and historical impact taken as a whole make a compelling case for him. I don’t think that Pryakhin has even a quarter of the case that Mogilny does. None of the players you mentioned as a comparable was a point per game player for their career – though I do think alarmed and Kovalev have borderline cases – they are not as strong a candidate as Mogilny. When you look at rate stats (like I mentioned) Mogilny is top 45 in both goals (.48 – 36th) and points per game (1.04 – 44th) all-time. It’s easy to make the case that he is a top 75/100 player of all time which to me, given the size of the hall, is worthy of enshrinement. You’re taking my points one at a time rather than as a whole.
And I’m saying that taken as a “whole” or otherwise — and really, I’ll take your points any damn way it suits me to do — there’s not a compelling case for him. As Josh said, he spent most of his career as an underachieving second line player.
If you’re going to look at the “whole,” consider other candidates out there. Daniel Alfredsson, for instance. I don’t think he’s a HHOFer, but in the latter part of his career, for TWELVE out of thirteen seasons going to age 41, he got All-Star and trophy votes. He never won the Byng, but he was in the top ten of votes five times. He never was named an All-Star, but he was in the top ten of votes eight straight seasons. He got Hart votes in four of those seasons, Selke votes in seven.
Only in FIVE out of his sixteen seasons did Mogilny get ANY votes for ANYthing. One of those years he got four All-Star votes for RW; Paul Ysebaert got that many. For most of his career he wasn’t considered even the tenth best right winger in hockey. Nor are you paying attention to the bit about “he racked up his stats in the highest scoring era in league history” — adjusted for era, he’s not in the top hundred.
“Any damn way it suits me” ok big guy.
Also he’s literally in the top 100 for both adjusted goals and points, but do go on.
Just curious, did you watch him play or just going off his bio and numbers?
If you’re asking me, yes, I did. Been watching hockey since the 1960s. If you’re asking the other guy … I figure he must once have been a twelve-year-old with a Mogilny poster on his bedroom wall.
Now sure, that was me once as well: I wager if you asked me at age 12 who the greatest player ever was, I’d hotly defend the principle that Bobby Orr was, against all comers.
Difference is that I grew up.
Yes, I’ve been watching hockey before Mogilny started playing.
You’re really keen on insults and posturing which shows you haven’t grown up very much.
I love Kovalev and he might one of the most talented Russians to play in North America, but he was an enigmatic and confounding player. Take away his second Rangers stint and his last four NHL seasons and I think his career sings as a Hall of Famer, but too often he let his foot off the gas and his career numbers and reputation suffered. Mogilny has been accused of the same, but he had lingering injuries, had a higher peak, and was a better defensive player than Kovalev. If Alfredsson or Kovalev got in – no complaints from me, I just think Mogilny is a stronger case. They’re all deserving.
As far as newbies go … hm. Luongo and the Sedins get in, of course … even if I don’t think Daniel’s first ballot material. Nash doesn’t. He led the league in goals exactly once. Never was an All-Star, never won any other trophy, never played for a Cup winner, not on the all-time leaderboards for anything.
Daniel Alfredsson … huh. Like forwhomjoshbelltolled says, if he gets in it’s a sop to the Senators’ fanbase. Those same stats playing for Toronto or Boston? No. He’s close, he copped a major trophy, he attracted a good many more trophy/All-Star votes over his career than the likes of Mogilny did.
But when I consider HHOFers, I use the Bill James rule. Was this guy at any point in his career seen as the best player at his position in hockey? No one would ever have said so for Alfredsson.
I agree that the voting should be more like baseball and Alfredsson wouldn’t make it. But saying he wouldn’t have those point totals with Boston or Toronto is a bogus take. Why wouldn’t he have?