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Florida Panthers Acquire, Extend Matthew Tkachuk

July 22, 2022 at 10:09 pm CDT | by Gavin Lee 130 Comments

The Florida Panthers and Calgary Flames have completed a massive, blockbuster trade.

The teams have each announced the swap: Matthew Tkachuk and a conditional fourth-round pick are going to the Florida Panthers, while Jonathan Huberdeau, MacKenzie Weegar, Cole Schwindt, and a lottery-protected 2025 first-round pick will head to Calgary.

With the trade completed, the Panthers announced that Tkachuk has agreed to an eight-year extension carrying a $9.5MM average annual value. Sportsnet’s Elliotte Friedman reports that the breakdown of Tkachuk’s contract each season is uniform – a base salary of $1MM and a signing bonus of $8.5MM.

That settles the Tkachuk contract situation and closes off any talk of Tkachuk joining the St. Louis Blues, which had been heavily rumored in the days leading up to this trade.

Overall, this is the sort of trade that we just don’t see all that often. It involves three superstar players, two wingers who crossed the 100-point threshold last season and one late-blooming defenseman who has blossomed into a true top-pairing, all-situations minutes-eater. A trade involving three stars doesn’t happen very often, making this swap all the more interesting to unpack.

For the Flames, the rationale for making this deal was quite simple. The team had barely any time to recover from the loss of Johnny Gaudreau to the Columbus Blue Jackets before Tkachuk informed them of his intentions to test free agency in a year’s time. GM Brad Treliving was backed into a corner, and he needed to find a way to revive his team’s competitive prospects despite his leverage decreasing and assets’ values dwindling. This trade is Treliving’s way of jump-starting the Flames’ hopes for next season after a nightmarish start to their offseason.

One could very easily argue that, on a player-for-player basis, the Flames got significantly better through this trade. Yes, Tkachuk is a superstar, combining incredible skill with physicality and peskiness to provide a package of tools few players can rival. On a line with Gaudreau and Elias Lindholm, Tkachuk smashed past his career highs in 2021-22, scoring 42 goals and 104 points. But in exchange for Tkachuk, the Flames are getting a player who also blew past his career highs and reached new heights in production – Huberdeau. In 80 games, Huberdeau scored 30 goals and 115 points, helping power a Panthers offense that scored at will. And it’s not just offense with him either, Huberdeau also saw nearly two minutes of short-handed ice time per game and has made great strides in refining his 200-foot game.

But that’s not all the Flames are getting. They’re also receiving Mackenzie Weegar, a 28-year-old former seventh-round pick who’s quickly risen to be one of the most reliable, impactful, underrated two-way defensemen in hockey. Weegar scored 44 points this season and averaged 2:46 in short-handed ice-time per game. When Aaron Ekblad was struggling to stay in the lineup, Weegar became a true number-one defenseman on the best regular-season team in hockey, a true feat. It’s fair to call Weegar a number-one defenseman and he should instantly be expected to slot into that role on an already talented Flames blueline.

In addition to Weegar, the Flames are getting prospect center, Schwindt. Schwindt is 21 years old and was drafted 81st overall at the 2019 draft. The former Mississauga Steelheads star has adjusted well to professional hockey, and had 40 points in 70 games as a rookie in the AHL. Schwindt represents the future-oriented part of the return, along with the lottery-protected 2025 first-round pick the Flames also received from the Panthers.

So, for Calgary, this trade works on two levels. On one level, it helps them recover from the loss of Gaudreau and compete for a Stanley Cup next season. They are adding an MVP-level, line-driving, 100-plus point winger to replace their lost 100-point winger. They’re also adding a minute-munching, all-situations number-one defenseman as well. Instantly, their team is better. They also receive a solid prospect to develop at their new Calgary-based AHL affiliate, and a nice first-round pick as well.

The true beauty of this trade for Calgary, though, is on its second level. See, this trade gives Treliving something that is all too rare in today’s flat cap world: flexibility. Let’s say, for whatever reason, Huberdeau and Weegar aren’t great fits. The team could struggle out the gate, and it could become clear that expecting the 2022-23 Flames to compete for a Stanley Cup is unrealistic. Well, if that ends up happening, Treliving will have Huberdeau and Weegar on expiring contracts. He will be able to immediately pivot to a rebuilding planfor his club and jump-start it with two players who will likely be the most coveted assets on the deadline trade market.

Treliving would be able to, essentially, orchestrate an auction for Huberdeau and Weegar’s services next season and accumulate a significant stockpile of draft picks and prospects in the process. When added on to the prospect and draft pick already received in this deal, it’s not a bad way to begin an organizational reset, especially when it comes at the cost of a player who had already communicated his intentions to leave in free agency. So for Treliving, this trade gives him and the entire Flames organization the flexibility to be able to effectively pursue either a cup-or-bust competitive window or a future-oriented reset.

Yes, there is some risk for the Flames, there’s no doubt about that. If a rebuild is, in fact, off the table, then adding two players with just a single year of team control each as the main return for Tkachuk is a gamble. If Weegar and Huberdeau both leave as free agents next summer, and the Flames don’t win a Stanley Cup, the initial good feelings generated from this trade could evaporate. But for a Calgary team that badly needed optimism and direction after such a bad month, this is the sort of gamble they’re prepared to make.

From the Panthers’ side of the equation, the motivations behind making this trade are a bit less immediately clear. This is a team that just won the President’s Trophy, so swapping one superstar winger for another at the cost of a top-pairing defenseman might not seem like the wisest choice, especially when they need to surrender a talented prospect and a first-rounder for their trouble. But one look at the Panthers’ cap sheet can give a bit more insight into why GM Bill Zito and the Panthers made this swap.

With major cap hits for Aleksander Barkov, Sergei Bobrovsky, Ekblad, and Sam Reinhart already on the books, the Panthers were looking at a very realistic scenario that either Huberdeau, Weegar, or even both would leave as free agents next summer. That was seen as a necessary risk for a team intent on winning the Stanley Cup, of course, but Zito seemingly decided that that risk was too much to bear. So, he decided to trade both Huberdeau and Weegar at a time when they were still extremely valuable assets in order to secure a younger superstar winger who he can lock into a long-term deal.

With Weegar gone and Tkachuk swapped for Huberdeau, it’s difficult to say that the Panthers are an improved team for next season. But if this trade as well as the departure of interim head coach Andrew Brunette tells us anything, it’s that the Panthers were extremely displeased with their second-round loss at the hands of the Tampa Bay Lightning. The Panthers clearly believe that they need a change in how their group plays, to play with more physicality, fire, and passion. There are few 100-point wingers who offer those three attributes more plentifully than Tkachuk, and even at this steep price, it’s easy to understand why Zito wanted him in Sunrise. If his presence in the lineup and locker room can help augment their team’s identity, it’ll be assets well spent.

This trade will be an extremely interesting one to track, and the storylines it creates could dominate the hockey headlines for months to come. Tkachuk is now in the same division as his brother, Brady, who captains the Ottawa Senators. The Flames have recently had to deal with questions over their ability to retain star players, and they’ve now added two star players who will, in just a year’s time, be free agents. Will the Flames be able to keep them? Will the new-look Flames be as good as last year’s club? Will Zito’s no-holds-barred chase of superstar talent, at the cost of the team’s first-round picks for the next three seasons, result in a Stanley Cup victory for the Panthers?

Those are definitely questions to ponder, and it’ll be extremely interesting to see how they end up answered.

Sportsnet’s Eric Francis was first on the trade. Pictures courtesy of USA Today Sports Images.

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  1. RipperMagoo

    8 months ago

    No state income tax matters.

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    • WillDS

      8 months ago

      When you are earning that kind of coin it makes virtually no difference if they have a competent accountant

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    • Red Wings

      8 months ago

      It still makes a big difference

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  2. Eovaldismemes

    8 months ago

    what the fu-

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  3. jawman74

    8 months ago

    Huberdeau gone? OOOOOOF

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  4. gdbyers

    8 months ago

    Let me speak for all the blues fans, F**K!!!!!!!!!!

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    • MacJablonski--NotVegasLegend

      8 months ago

      @gdbyers – Even those of us with no vested interest were hoping he’d land there. I sympathize. But, we should all realize, that CGY’s winters prevent you from really working on that out-of-summer tan. South FLA can’t be beat there.

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  5. amk1920

    8 months ago

    Good lord this is such an awful trade for Florida. They think this is fantasy hockey

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    • RipperMagoo

      8 months ago

      Is there a salary cap in your fantasy league? Because the NHL has one.

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    • bigdaddyt

      8 months ago

      Flames now have the best top 4 D and should have Z and Kylington as 5-6 which is pretty good. Markstrom is the big winner of this trade

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    • Goku the All Knowing

      8 months ago

      pretty fair trade overall.. both teams got better

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  6. kingcong95

    8 months ago

    ESPN’s hypothetical offer, FWIW, was Verhaeghe, Hornqvist, Weegar, and a 2nd.

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  7. JNB

    8 months ago

    Holy wow…. Good for Calgary

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  8. BOSsports21

    8 months ago

    That’s a pretty good get for Calgary, with Huberdeau, Weegar and a 1st round pick in a loaded draft

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    • RazWild

      8 months ago

      Huberdeau ALONE should carry the same weight, if not more, as Tkachuk in terms of value. And that’s before one considers he still has term left on his contract, where Tkachuk is RFA and was just taken to Arbitration by Calgary.

      Adding Weeger and a 1st ON TOP of that to get Tkachuk is insane.

      Zito just got fleeced hard. Not only did he give up the best player in the trade to acquire a lesser player, but he completely throws sanity out the door by adding a top 4 defenseman and a 1st round pick in a stacked draft class to acquire said lesser player.

      Oofda.

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    • birdmansns

      8 months ago

      1st round pick is in 2025

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    • kscheer

      8 months ago

      FIFY: Top 2 defenseman

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    • cr4

      8 months ago

      Tkachuk is my favorite player hands down but there is no way he is worth Hubey let alone the other pieces. Florida has lost its mind

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    • Goku the All Knowing

      8 months ago

      hubey is 29 and coming off a career year

      Tkachuk is 24 and does that on the reg

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    • Nha Trang

      8 months ago

      … the hell?

      Tkachuk’s 2022 point total was exactly equal to his previous two seasons *combined,* and more than DOUBLE his career average.

      Huberdeau’s been well over a point a game each of the last four seasons.

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    • Colonel Bob

      8 months ago

      If you like a winger that has three times as many assists as goals, then you will love Jon Huberdeau.

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    • tylerall5

      8 months ago

      Like it or not, that winger contributed 115 goals last season

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    • Dave Offutt

      8 months ago

      Well put. Totally agree. I always thought of Zito as a sharp GM, Anna my opinion is now completely the opposite. There must be more to this than meets the eye….

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    • Colonel Bob

      8 months ago

      I believe you mean 115 points. 30 goals and 85 assists from a LW. Huberdeau has had a pass first mentality since the day he arrived in Florida. He will be a center for the Flames and do well. Play him at wing and be ready for plenty of extra passes.

      For this past year’s playoffs, 1G 4A. in ten games. I hope he does better for the Flames.

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    • Brent97 2

      8 months ago

      Agreed huberdeau alone i would think has the higher value. The fact that florida had to add is insane.. huberdeau is in the prime hes a consistant line driver and a quiet superstar. I would take 35g 85ast over 42g 60ast. anyday. And i cant see him wanting to stay there in a rebuild so unless calgary changes the team fast hes most likely walking next year.
      Just in time for the quebec player returning home to habs to start hahaha.

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    • Brent97 2

      8 months ago

      Agreed huberdeau alone i would think has the higher value. The fact that florida had to add is insane.. then again this is the same team that gave up a decent prospect and a unprotected 1st rounder for chariot..lol. still crazy tho. huberdeau is in the prime hes a consistant line driver and a quiet superstar. I would take 35g 85ast over 42g 60ast. anyday. And i cant see him wanting to stay there in a rebuild so unless calgary changes the team fast hes most likely walking next year.
      Just in time for the quebec player returning home to habs to start hahaha. Come home to the habs in 2023 hubey

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    • Red Wings

      8 months ago

      Exactly

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    • tylerall5

      8 months ago

      No, I meant 115 goals. His play contributed 115 goals to his team, assists and goals.

      If he doesn’t pass, there isn’t goals.

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    • runningred

      8 months ago

      1. To give or supply in common with others; give to a common fund or for a common purpose.

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    • Colonel Bob

      8 months ago

      Sounding very collectivist, komrade

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    • Nha Trang

      8 months ago

      So, you ever collect unemployment? Plan on collecting Social Security or Medicare? You ever drive a car on a public highway? How about that COVID shot you had? The police and firefighter protection you enjoy? That’s all socialism, buddy: the pooling of common funds for the common good.

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    • Colonel Bob

      8 months ago

      Your idea of socialism and mine are much different. Police and fire are government functions, as are the roads.

      Have I or plan to collect those benefits? Better question, do I have a choice to pay into them or not? Now THAT is socialism.

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  9. kscheer

    8 months ago

    What a trash trade for the panthers. Holy sh*t.

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    • padam

      8 months ago

      I think it’s actually a good deal for them. Granted they gave up their top player, but MT fits well with what they have and helps Florida in a physical division.

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    • kscheer

      8 months ago

      So giving up your best player and a top pairing D for someone who was a passenger on Johnny Hockey’s line for the last four years is a good deal?

      Oh and a first rounder?

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    • J10 2

      8 months ago

      Agreed! This is exactly what the Panthers need. Zito has been the best GM we’ve had in a long time.

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    • padam

      8 months ago

      @cheer – yes. Ever think MT enabled Johnny?

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    • Colonel Bob

      8 months ago

      Barkov is a better player than Huberdeau overall.

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  10. JNB

    8 months ago

    Only 2 years on Huberdeau’s contract so some risk here but they got a great haul

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    • pbpsean

      8 months ago

      Huberdeau and Weegar are UFAs after this season. Maybe Zito grabs Tkachuck, then resigns both next summer!?!

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    • JNB

      8 months ago

      Oh damn you’re right.. only 1 year left. I hope they feel confident in him signing

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  11. fleewolfe

    8 months ago

    Hubredeau was enough honestly to change your identity but to add a first with weager flames won hands down this one hurts for the Florida faithful

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    • jawman74

      8 months ago

      *insert joke about how panthers faithful don’t exist here*

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    • fleewolfe

      8 months ago

      Understandable but Huberdeau was the #2 behind barkov in the turning point of the franchise “insert joke about someone trying to get a laugh but failing horribly”

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    • They’re too dumb to play with themselves

      8 months ago

      “you must be new to hockey if you think this funny”
      -doghockey

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    • MacJablonski--NotVegasLegend

      8 months ago

      @jawman74 – Not anymore… their exhaust fumes turned into vapor trails from the Skunkworks’ Mach 9 Special…

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    • Colonel Bob

      8 months ago

      Panthers faithful here. Just wait until you watch Weegar the human turnover machine and become increasingly frustrated as the season goes on. Huberdeau plays wing but will act as a second center on whatever line. For your sake either Sutter will either play him at center or do the impossible and teach him to shoot first as a winger.

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    • Nha Trang

      8 months ago

      Kinda amusing that Tkachuk had MORE turnovers than Weegar did. Just sayin’.

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    • Colonel Bob

      8 months ago

      What bothers you more, turnovers from a winger or a defenseman?

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    • Nha Trang

      8 months ago

      When the winger has the third most turnovers in hockey last year, I’d find that pretty damn bothersome.

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    • kscheer

      8 months ago

      The panthers have fans?

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    • Colonel Bob

      8 months ago

      You need to come up with new material and not the 20 year old jokes.

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    • Red Wings

      8 months ago

      A turnover in the offensive zone is not nearly as harmful as one in your defensive zone

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    • Red Wings

      8 months ago

      Colonel Bob it is clear you actually watch the Panthers play! Comments are pretty much spot on.

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    • Nha Trang

      8 months ago

      Why so? The goals you give up because of a turnover in the defensive zone don’t magically count more than the goals you don’t score because of a turnover in the offensive zone.

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    • Colonel Bob

      8 months ago

      Logically, turnovers closer to your own net are more likely to go in than turnovers in the opposite zone.

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    • Nha Trang

      8 months ago

      I think we’re almost all of us in agreement that “logic” and your posts have little to do with one another.

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    • Colonel Bob

      8 months ago

      If you cannot agree that the opposition taking control of the puck closer to your net has a greater chance of turning to a scoring chance as opposed to a turnover near the opposition’s net where the opponent then has to skate much farther tells me that you do not understand the game of hockey.

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  12. padam

    8 months ago

    Guessing Calgary tries to rope in Kadri now.

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    • kscheer

      8 months ago

      Klingberg

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    • bigdaddyt

      8 months ago

      Don’t think Klingberg is a fit, they’d only do that if they’re flipping Weager and Kylington and would still basically be the bottom paring or 4th d and pp specialist. Cause he isn’t bumping Tanev or the Hanifin Anderson paring

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    • Nha Trang

      8 months ago

      Beyond that, Calgary can’t afford Klingberg … unless they’re willing to take him INSTEAD of Mangiapane.

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  13. case7187

    8 months ago

    It looks to me that the flames won this trade by a landslide I mean wasn’t there a lot of issues with Tkachuk behavior on and off this ice (I could be wrong) I know he’s hothead

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  14. kscheer

    8 months ago

    What a punch in the sack for the Panthers. Calling it now they pull a Vegas and don’t make the ploffs and Calgary wins the pacific. Suck on that one.

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  15. big boi

    8 months ago

    What the f…Now that is a massive block-buster trade! don’t like this trade at all for Florida

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  16. J10 2

    8 months ago

    Just my opinion but as a Panthers fan I’m ecstatic. Huburdeau is an elite player but he’ll always have a pass first mentality, will always play a finesse game. Weegar is ok but gets pushed around in front of the net and in the playoffs he was a liability. Tkachuk brings the goals plus the physicality that we desperately need. Just my opinion but when I saw this trade I was shocked, couldn’t be happier.

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    • kscheer

      8 months ago

      We’ll see how many goals he scores without Johnny ham and cheese

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    • J10 2

      8 months ago

      I think he’ll do great things with Barkov tbh. Barky and Huby are both passive players, each of them needs to be paired with an aggressor. On paper this looks like a good fit.

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    • Red Wings

      8 months ago

      As an avid Panthers fan this could be a good trade. Tkachuk is younger and tougher. Weegar was bad at times last year, going to be expensive to keep. Huberdeau did little in the playoffs, imagine Barkov’s numbers if he actually has a top winger.

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    • kscheer

      8 months ago

      Weegar graded as a top 5 dman last year on his score card. He’s going to crush it in Calgary.

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    • padam

      8 months ago

      Please. It’s in his DNA. He’ll score without Johnny. Hell, I think his play enabled Johnny.

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    • rolandveras

      8 months ago

      Tkachuk is not the physical presence that Florida fans may believe he is. The Panthers better have guys like Milan Lucic, Erik Gudbranson, and Nikita Zadorov watching his back or he’ll get his clock cleaned by guys like Michael Raffl. Tkackuk’s speciality is opponents Swedish and Finnish cupcakes.

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    • Colonel Bob

      8 months ago

      The Panther fan will be happy if Tkachuk will shoot the puck and not try to tie a ribbon around a play. Huberdeau will try to make a fancy pass instead of shooting the puck. Flames will do well to play Huberdeau at center.

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  17. slimmycito

    8 months ago

    I don’t think you can give up Huberdeau in that deal, if that’s what it had to take then no deal. You give up (one of) your homegrown 2 way superstars for a guy that just forced his way out of town. We’ll see how it works out for them.

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  18. pbpsean

    8 months ago

    Huberdeau and Weegar are UFAs after this season. Maybe Zito grabs Tkachuck, then resigns both next summer!?!

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    • MoneyBallJustWorks

      8 months ago

      doubt it. can’t imagine Zito didn’t talk to Hubie and his agent and their asking price and felt a long term Tkachuk at likely a similar AAV is worth more due to his style of play and being younger.

      maybe if Hubie has a bad year they could bring him back but if he’s a 80-100 point guy, he’s getting 8M min from someone

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  19. MoneyBallJustWorks

    8 months ago

    gets to play his brother a bunch now. this should be fun

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  20. jdgoat

    8 months ago

    So Florida gets the worse forward, but they get him for longer. In the meanwhile, they give up a top D man who just might well be one of the most underrated players in the league. And on top of that, a first? Make it make sense.

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  21. slapshot53

    8 months ago

    Hubrdeau , good player , pass first , fizzled in the playoffs, Weegar good, mistake prone at times , like everything about M.T , and like 6 years younger , than Hubie, and come on plays with some balls that the Panthers didn’t have ! I’m sure Zito isn’t finished, cause it frees up some $$$$.

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  22. They’re too dumb to play with themselves

    8 months ago

    Huberdeau Dubois = rouge, blanc et bleu

    Tick tock tick tock

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    • The Mistake of Giving Eugene Melnyk a Liver Transplant

      8 months ago

      People were guaranteeing MT was going to St.Louis and Johnny Hockey was going to Philly, just like this. So, best to be proactive!

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    • slimmycito

      8 months ago

      I don’t think I saw anyone guaranteeing Gaudreau to Philly lol. If anyone even said JG to Philly they got shot down immediately by people saying “cap space”

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  23. Nha Trang

    8 months ago

    Huberdeau AND Weegar AND a 1st? That’s just plain smoking whacky weed on Florida’s part, especially when the results leave them $4MM above the cap. They’re going to have to do salary dumping, and that’ll weaken the team more.

    I can’t imagine how any Panthers’ fan is justifying this, beyond the “Ooooo, shiny new toy!” fantasy draft mentality. Huberdeau is not a flash in the pan: he’s an elite scorer who’s BEEN an elite scorer for several years now, and you just might imagine that a guy who’s played ten seasons for Florida and re-signed with them twice just might have been loyal enough to the club to do it a third time. (More loyal than the fans waiting to throw under the bus a 2nd Team All-Star who finished second in the league in scoring and led the team to its best record ever by far, anyway.)

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  24. Bravesfan309

    8 months ago

    not the biggest hockey fan in the world so tell me if I am wrong but for everybody who says Florida got hosed. was huberdeau or weegar locks to resign? they could of been lost for nothing a year from now. and if Florida stays competitive 3 years from now losing a late 1st isn’t gonna hurt that much.

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    • Nha Trang

      8 months ago

      Huberdeau had already re-signed twice with Florida, and he’d been there ten seasons. Probably a safe bet to re-up there, yeah.

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    • MoneyBallJustWorks

      8 months ago

      why was it a safe bet. he’d want to be paid. was likely looking at Tkachuk money at 5 yrs older.

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  25. MacJablonski--NotVegasLegend

    8 months ago

    Makes you wonder if this was as much about buying a future favor downstream for Bill Zito as the trade itself. Hard to imagine what that would be at the moment, though.

    Also, there’s a certain irony here, when just three or so hours ago, I suggested one of the top-shelf PHR authors gets a scoop of scoops. Even though I suggested Naz, this definitely checks the box for scoop! Well done, @Gavin!

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  26. DarkSide830

    8 months ago

    This is absolutely mental.

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  27. Gbear

    8 months ago

    Not sure who won this trade just yet, but I’m shocked that MT went thru all of this only to not end up being a Blue at the end off it all.

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  28. fburner88

    8 months ago

    All that and Florida’s still $3M over the cap

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    • Colonel Bob

      8 months ago

      Please show me your math please . . .

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    • mattc68

      8 months ago

      Check capfriendly.

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    • Nha Trang

      8 months ago

      Puckpedia’s showing the same. How about checking the math yourself before you pop off, CB?

      Reply
    • Colonel Bob

      8 months ago

      Huberdeau and Tkachuk will earn about the same next year. Weegar earns about $5M. That says to me that the Panthers cleared $5M of cap space.

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    • Nha Trang

      8 months ago

      Let me help you out some. Tkachuk signed for $9.5MM. Huberdeau, as it happens, makes $5.9MM. Weegar, as it happens, makes $3.25MM.

      That says, to anyone who bothers to look things up, that Florida in fact ADDED a third of a million worth of cap hit.

      If you’re not trying to troll us, I’d recommend retaking 2nd grade math.

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    • Colonel Bob

      8 months ago

      “A third of a million” would be $333,333.00 and not $3,250,000. The difference between the two is 3 million. Panthers still added cap space as none was retained, no?

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    • fburner88

      8 months ago

      Sure, at the time of the trade they cleared $9.1M in cap space off their books.

      They then signed MT to a contract with $9.5M AAV… Which immediately consumed all the cap space they cleared and then some.

      My fundamental point, which I’ll spoon feed to you since connecting dots doesn’t appear to be your thing, is that they still have to make at least one other move to become cap compliant as this trade didn’t help their cap situation.

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    • Nha Trang

      8 months ago

      @ fburner88: Yeah, he just seems constitutionally incapable of either admitting that he had no idea what he was talking about, or just dropping the stick and walking away. Time to stop feeding the trolls.

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    • Colonel Bob

      8 months ago

      Anthony Duclair is going to have hip surgery and go on LTIR. $3M off the books, albeit temporarily.

      And you assume that the Panthers will make no more moves before the start of the regular season . . .

      That said Flames pick up two players on their contract year, and the Panthers have a winger 5 years younger.

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  29. pawtucket

    8 months ago

    Calgary gets one more shot….then it’s oopsie daisy we have no all-stars and it’s rebuilding time.

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  30. itsmeheyhi

    8 months ago

    Nice when you get the better player plus a top-4 RHD, a first and a decent prospect. Calgary went from rebuild back to potential contender.

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  31. uvmfiji

    8 months ago

    Simple. Florida was not good enough to win the Cup. Had to shake things up and get tougher.

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  32. mattc68

    8 months ago

    If anyone on this site had proposed this trade yesterday we all would have laughed at them. Admit it. I would have.

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  33. Sunshine swede

    8 months ago

    If i’m right, Panthers are 2,75M over cap. But with Duclair to miss atleast parts of the season, that will cover it from THE beginning. Am I right?

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    • Nha Trang

      8 months ago

      My understanding — and someone correct me if I’m wrong — that while teams can put people on LTIR the moment the season starts, they need to be cap compliant before they can actually do so.

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    • Sunshine swede

      8 months ago

      No one seems to correct you about this, and I’m sure you know this better than me. So you mean Florida has to get close to 3M of the books? What about for example Vegas that accuired Shea Weber, even if he’ll never play again?

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    • Colonel Bob

      8 months ago

      link to sportingnews.com

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  34. 66TheNumberOfTheBest

    8 months ago

    Like most…at first, I thought Bill Zito had lost his mind. He did not. There was a logic here. But, it still might not have been the right move.

    The Panthers weren’t going to be able to extend Huberdeau AND Weegar both, so he turns them into a better asset. That makes sense on some level. Best player in the trade wins the deal, right? Well…

    EXCEPT when you paint yourself into a corner, cap yourself out and create multiple holes in your roster that you might have a hard time filling. All of these issues stem from the Bob contract, though. That’s the root of the their problem.

    But, as we sit here today, the Panthers are a worse team than they were yesterday. Let’s see what else they do.

    A week ago, Treliving was the GM having the worst off season. What a gift for him IF…

    A) He can extend both. That should be his priority.
    B) He can trade both for good returns if he can’t.

    Plan A is much better for the Flames than Plan B. But, short of botching those trades….he’s already won here.

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    • Nha Trang

      8 months ago

      And really, next offseason doesn’t look bad for the Flames. They’ve a lot better chance of getting Huberdeau and Weegar to re-up if they look like contenders, and hey, look: Monahan and Lucic’s contracts will come off the books in 2023. They’ll have no other impact player to re-sign except Vladar. Losing Gaudreau and Tkachuk could’ve been a disaster, but they look like they’re going to weather this pretty well.

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    • 66TheNumberOfTheBest

      8 months ago

      If they play it right…

      When I say he should try to extend them, I mean THIS WEEK and if they don’t want to be Flames trade them now when each has a full season to offer and all of the teams who might want to be in on them can be in on them instead of limiting your options at the trade deadline.

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    • MoneyBallJustWorks

      8 months ago

      this is why the Kadri rumours are circulating. he’d fill a #1/2 C role and they still would have the cap room for weeger and Hubie next year.

      the one praise I have for reliving before this move was he has ensured they have no long term deals handcuffing them

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    • Nha Trang

      8 months ago

      He would, but here’s the rub: do you want Kadri, or do you want Mangiapane AND Kylington?

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  35. Johnny Z

    8 months ago

    This trade is won by FLA , hands down, if Hueby and Weegar become FA’s next year. Now the Flames have a glut of D-men they need to trade for a scoring winger!

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  36. Buff Barnacles

    8 months ago

    Three good Canadien boys should have no trouble in the change in weather.

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  37. WilfPaiement

    8 months ago

    Treliving still has alot of work to do.

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  38. Justajaysfan

    8 months ago

    What the f just happened here? How did Calgary get so much in return for a player they owned the rights to? Also florida is paying Tkachuk 9.5 million with that type of length for a power forward? I can’t believe this trade it blows my mind. Calgary fleeced Florida on this one. They also got a prospect I mean wow

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  39. Pathetikos

    8 months ago

    Everyone:”Calgary is having the worst off-season in history”
    Florida:”Hold my beer”

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  40. Bigboyrick

    8 months ago

    You might want to update your post about the extension.
    link to twitter.com

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  41. iron

    8 months ago

    I love the trade. Need to figure a way to deal Bob. Pay 1/2 his salary and throw in a prospect. Give the net to Knight. Creates cap room.

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    • Colonel Bob

      8 months ago

      Soooooo, you want to pay 1/2 of Bobrovsky’s salary, give Knight an extension, AND pay another goaltender to back up Knight.

      You must like seeing the Panthers with dead money on their books.

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    • Red Wings

      8 months ago

      Makes no sense to retain $5,000,000 and pay a backup $2-$3,000,000. Bob has been OK, not great or worth his contract, but kind of stuck with him. Most of the penalty for Yandles buyout are off the books after next season, extra $4,000,000 there.

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    • Colonel Bob

      8 months ago

      Bobrovsky had a .911 save percentage in the playoffs and .913 in the regular season. Better than previous seasons but fans get stuck on that first season.

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    • Nha Trang

      8 months ago

      The first TWO seasons, that is; Bobrovsky was below league average in 2021 too. Now last year was certainly a good season. Not $10MM worth, but still. It’s still twice as much money as he’s worth.

      Not that Florida can do anything about it. Problem is, Iron, that Bobrovsky has a full no-movement clause until 2024. Buying it out hits them with over $6MM of dead cap space a year. And given that, they just might as well keep him.

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    • iron

      8 months ago

      Arizona has a ton of cap space and needs a goalie. Convince Bob that they will give him 65-70 starts and not have to look over his shoulder worrying about Knight. They can eat all of the salary if the Panthers deal a couple of prospects and takes back a couple of 6th round picks. The Tkachuk deal is better than losing Huber and Mac for nothing by waiting 1 year. Plus they get a lot younger. They are playing with the hand they brought upon themselves. What would everyone else do in this situation?

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    • Colonel Bob

      8 months ago

      Panthers just recently traded their first round picks for the last year’s draft and the next two. Any prospects they have they are going to need to keep.

      Bob has a NMC. Why would he want to go from contender to bottom feeder?

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    • Nha Trang

      8 months ago

      Why should Bobrovsky care how many starts he has or worry about Knight? He’s getting paid all the same, and he’ll keep ON getting paid for four more years. The contract will take him to retirement age anyway, he’ll have lifetime earnings of over a hundred million, and he’s earning it in a low-tax state.

      (Beyond that, you’re misguided as far as Arizona goes. They’re going to spend to the cap floor and not one cent higher; they don’t WANT to spend money right now, what with their gate and ad revenues being gutted.)

      What would everyone else do in this situation? If I were Florida’s GM (god forbid), I’d suck it up and accept that Bobrovsky’s contract was a terrible one, that we were stuck with it, that he’s a good enough goalie that it’s cheaper to keep him than buy him out, and that was the end of it.

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  42. Josip Tomic

    8 months ago

    Hi Gavin,
    Can you fix the word ‘planfor’? It should be ‘plan for’ not ‘planfor’. Please & thank you.

    “He will be able to immediately pivot to a rebuilding ‘planfor’ his club”

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  43. Nha Trang

    8 months ago

    (wonders, offhand, if this is a record for comments on a single post)

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  44. Hughes2Holtz

    8 months ago

    Didn’t see Devils being able to match. What I’m most pissed about is if our GM can’t convince his cousin to come to NJ (agree to only extend with Devils or simply playout his last RFA year), then why does he still have a job.

    That said, he can keep it if he finds a way to bring Timo Meier (countryman of Devils Captain Nico Hischer).

    Devils: RW Timo Meier ($6M) & their 2023 2nd.
    Sharks: RW Alexander Holtz (played with their 1st rounder Eklund), RD Damon Severson (trade asset with 1/$4.16M), LW Tomas Tatar (1/$4.5M – retain $1.5M), and a their 2023 1st.

    Realize I would have to change my Login Name, but is this realistic?

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    • 66TheNumberOfTheBest

      8 months ago

      No, but move that second round pick to the other side of the ledger and I think you might be close.

      Devils: RW Timo Meier ($6M)

      Sharks: RW Alexander Holtz (played with their 1st rounder Eklund), RD Damon Severson (trade asset with 1/$4.16M), LW Tomas Tatar (1/$4.5M – retain $1.5M), and a their 2023 1st. & their 2023 2nd.

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