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Holden Trade Led To Roy’s Departure

October 26, 2016 at 4:55 pm CDT | by Zach Leach 11 Comments

It was no secret that one of the main reasons for former Colorado Avalanche head coach Patrick Roy’s surprising departure this summer was that he did not see eye-to-eye with GM Joe Sakic on the direction of the team. Roy did not hide the fact that he disagreed with several of Sakic’s personnel decisions, especially when it came to the defense. An old-school, conservative hockey mind, Roy wanted to stick to a strong, defensive unit on the back end. The highly publicized negotiations with and eventual expensive extension for Tyson Barrie was thought to be a top reason why Roy decided to move on. He did not see Barrie as anything more than a bottom-pair defenseman and hated seeing the Avalanche use such a large portion of of their cap space on a defensively-deficient blue liner.

Now, a New York Post article has added yet another issue on the back end in Colorado that likely added to Roy’s exit. It describes how New York Rangers coach Alain Vigneault received a phone call from Roy in June after the team had traded for former Avs defenseman Nick Holden. In it, Roy described Holden as “one of my better defensemen”. He also said that Holden was “safe, dependable, and not very flashy”. That perfectly describes Roy’s perfect defenseman, a guy who works hard, doesn’t make mistakes, and plays well in the defensive zone. While some may view this description as dull and lacking upside, and Holden’s career offensive numbers don’t exactly jump off the page, analyzing both the basic defensive stats and more analytic possession stats for Holden over the past couple seasons actually reveals a very strong player. In fact, Roy is surely not the only one who would value Holden’s ability and he is not wrong to have been upset about losing such a player for a measly fourth-round pick. Holden may be one of the most under-rated defensemen in the NHL.

Less than two months after the trade, Roy said goodbye to the place he called home as a player and coach. While the more prevalent issue at the time had been Barrie, it seems likely after the New York Post report that it was likely a combination of keeping Barrie at the expense of Holden that frustrated Roy. The Hall of Fame goalie wanted as a coach what he wanted as a player: a solid defense in front of him. While Roy has yet to find another job behind an NHL bench yet, his next GM should be careful not to trade the best defensive defenseman on the team. Meanwhile, Holden is playing alongside Ryan McDonagh and logging big minutes on the top pair in New York while the Colorado defense is having a hard time stopping goals. Maybe Roy was right all along.

 

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  1. Gary Knight

    9 years ago

    I’m sorry, but I have no idea what Roy sees in Holden. Maybe he was great with the Avs, but since watching him very closely with the Rangers, he is not as defensively sound as everyone is making him out to be. He makes stupid mistakes, he attempts to clear the puck with as much effort or strength as a 92 year old woman, and turns the puck over as if it is his first time playing the position. I rather McIlrath play over him any day of the week.

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    • Barmishmar

      9 years ago

      Holden did not play well with the Avs. He was easily one of our worst defensemen, game after game. I’ve seen nothing but complaints from NYR fans, and Avs were lucky to get the 4th for him.

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      • stormie

        9 years ago

        Well, stats say otherwise.

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  2. NYRBLUBLOOD

    9 years ago

    YEA, Gary night, AV should call you for your perspective and scouting report on Holden…
    You must know so much more than a HOF goalie and successful NHL head coach. I’m sure AV will want you in on coaches meetings too …

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    • TJECK109

      9 years ago

      What exactly has he done to make him a successful NHL head coach?

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      • stormie

        9 years ago

        Win a division title in the toughest division in the league with a team that wasn’t expected to make the playoffs? Win coach of the year?

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        • TJECK109

          9 years ago

          His team got worse each of the following 2 years and he was basically a .500 coach. One season does not make a successful NHL head coach.

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          • TJECK109

            9 years ago

            .500 coach after his 1st and only successful season

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      • metseventually 2

        9 years ago

        Going to a Stanley Cup isn’t successful? 2 conference finals appearances? Playoffs in all of his seasons has head coach?

        So what you’re saying is that unless you win the Stanley Cup- you’re an unsuccessful coach.

        Don’t forget he’s had two different teams win the Presidents Trophy.

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  3. stormie

    9 years ago

    Sakic is easily one of the worst GMs in the league. So many terrible moves in such a short tenure, he’s mangled what should’ve been one of the best young teams in the league by this point.

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  4. Nadia Archuleta

    9 years ago

    While that type of move may have added to Patrick Roy’s decision to leave, it was a culmination of the way Joe Sakic — and, more significantly, the various CBJ staff now associated with the team — decided to drive the Colorado Avalanche. Basically, Roy didn’t think basing the Avs on one of the few teams (CBJ) that actually performed worse than them recently showed a Stanley Cup Attitude.

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